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faptain wrote:Science can test a supernatural..

How can a science test the supernatural? HMMM

assylla wrote:

How can a science test the supernatural? HMMM

I’ve just read a very nice paper on these issues by Yonatan Fishman in the journal Science and Education (2009, free download), which I recommend it to everyone interested in this question. Its main points are these (I’ll use quotation marks when I’m quoting Fishman directly):

Science doesn’t “prove” or “disprove” anything. It simply renders hypotheses more or less plausible (I’d argue, though, that science’s ability to render ideas implausible comes very close to what we all think of as absolute disproof). As Fishman says:
“Indeed, in science no hypothesis, regardless of whether it concerns ‘natural’ or ‘supernatural’ phenomena, can be definitively proven or disproven. The ultimate aim of science is to explain the world by means of models that are more or less supported by the available evidence. As new evidence may arise that conflicts with our currently accepted models, no scientific hypothesis or theory can be proven with certainty or be immune from potential falsification. Scientific theories and hypotheses are defeasible. Nonetheless, a rough probability value, perhaps assessed via the Bayesian framework outlined above, can still be placed on a hypothesis, such that the hypothesis can be ‘proven’ or ‘disproven’ beyond a reasonable doubt (a familiar example being the innocence or guilt of a defendant in a court of law).”

The boundary between the natural and supernatural is fluid, as phenomena previously seen as supernatural (like lightning) are brought by science into the bailiwick of the natural. Indeed, as I (JAC) see it, one shouldn’t really make a firm distinction between natural and supernatural phenomena, but simply characterize them as “produced by natural processes” vs. those “produced by divine causes.”

In other words, we can provisionally accept that there is no god because we don’t see the kind of evidence that we should see if god were present (answered prayers, confirmable miracles at Lourdes, and so on), and we see things that we don’t expect if there were a loving, omnipotent, and omniscient God (the most obvious, of course, is the presence of undeserved evil).

I do believe in miracle as well as in the spirit, though i haven't experience that thing and i don't wanna. They do exist.

assylla wrote:how can you explain the supernatural things in the bible?

THE FIRST KEY FOR INTERPRETING and understanding the Bible is the supernatural key. You use this key when you approach the Bible by sincerely believing that it was supernaturally produced and preserved. It was inspired or breathed out by God who used holy men of old to record his words. While these men used their own languages and were influenced by their own cultures, the end product was the eternal, infallible, inerrant, and authoritative Word of the Almighty and all-wise God who created the universe in which we live. Without this recognition of the Bible as a supernatural book one could never learn to rightly interpret what God has said in it.

The human writers of the Bible never wrote as though they were the authors of its 66 books. In every case the author identified God as the divine source of what he was writing. For example, Moses said that his words were "the words that the Lord commanded him" (Exod. 19:7). The author of the books of Kings said that "the Lord testified against Israel, and against Judah by the prophets" (II Kings 17:13). The psalmist said that God showed his word to the nation of Israel (147:19). The prophets repeatedly prefaced their remarks by "Thus saith the Lord."

yanadub wrote:

jaytina wrote:Hi Admin !

yup, its real . . .  in this world there are lots of mystery that we can't explain . . . so that i believe in those keme . . . eksdi !

how do you say that it is real? have you experience one?

Supernatural things are not just about ghosts, UFO's and etc, if you believe in God, there's a miracle, therefore, supernatural is real and it is proved in the bible.

Hannah Grace wrote:
But does the supernatural exist?
Do you believe in supernatural powers, spirits, ghosts? And if you do why?

Yes.
Not really, to see is to believe.

what does the bible say about supernatural?

What Does It Mean When We Say the Bible is ‘Supernatural’?

camzy wrote:what does the bible say about supernatural?

i have here some verses in the bible about supernatural:

Deuteronomy 18:9-13 ESV / 27 helpful votes

“When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. You shall be blameless before the Lord your God,

Isaiah 53:1-12 ESV / 15 helpful votes

Who has believed what he has heard from us? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed. ...

camzy wrote:What Does It Mean When We Say the Bible is ‘Supernatural’?

To answer your questions regarding Holy Scripture and the use of the word “supernatural,” let me first address what nature and supernature are. First, everything that is comes from God. God is called “the author of the natural and the supernatural.” From the point of view of God, nothing is “supernatural,” since nothing is above his nature. The terms are relative to the human point of view. Certain things are natural to us, certain things supernatural. For that matter, angels, whose nature is higher than ours are called “praeternatural” from our point of view (Latin praeter means “beyond” or “more than”).

Does the supernatural exist?
Do you believe in supernatural powers, spirits, ghosts? And if you do why?

Yes it's Real!

yes! of-course i believed in supernaturals. in fact there's a television show that presents a lot of extra ordinary activities about a superhuman.

YES BECAUSE THIS WORLD IS SO BIG , MANY SUPERNATURAL CREATURES LIVES IN THIS WORLD BUT NOT ALL NEVER SEE BY EYES O:)

Opo. naniniwala ako sa supernaturals.. dahil ang planeta natin ay gawa sa tubig na umiikot sa araw na gawa sa apoy tapos di tayo naniniwala sa miracles o ibang buhay sa ibang planeta or supernaturals. wag po natin isipin lagi na ang tao ang pinaka matalinong nilikha ng lumikha. mali po tayo jan. napakalawak ng universe, ni hindi nga natin ito masukat. at sobrang daming bituin ang nakikita natin sa langit na sobrang layo at aabutin tayo ng libo libong taon bago makarating dito. kung tatanungin nyo rin po ako at sasabihing ang tao lang ang nilikha ng Diyos sa bible, mali po ito. dapat po maging mulat na tayo sa ganitong bagay, hindi po tayo dapat makuntento kung ano ang nakasulat dito, wag po tayo makuntentong naniniwala tayo, dapat malaman natin , dapat iquestion natin ang lahat ng bagay sa mundo, kung bakit , pano , at ano. mas magandang alam natin ang mga bagay na hindi kayang ipaliwanag ng mga ibat ibang religion. hindi ko po sinasabi na wag tayo maniwala sa sinasabi ng mga ibat ibang religion, ang gusto ko lang iparating na dapat hindi tayo maistuck sa nakaraan, dapat natin malaman at matuklasan kung pano ba talaga ang mabuhay sa mundo ng hindi sinusunod ang gusto lang at naayon sa mata ng karamihan. kailangan natin mag isip ng paraan kung pano magiging masaya habang buhay ka pa.

it’s good to have a healthy skepticism about the world, but that goes both ways. We don’t think you can necessarily totally prove ghosts are real, but you also can’t just dismiss them out of hand. Especially when there’s so many pieces of evidence that prove ghosts are real.

Does the supernatural exist?
Do you believe in supernatural powers, spirits, ghosts? And if you do why?

ans. yes because I had saw one when I was a kid

Do you believe in Aliens or Extraterrestrials?

[b]I am not believe in this topic which is the supernatural because we don't have a prove that there is a UFO'S,MAGIC,DEVILOR ANGELS ETCH...

MAM DO YOU BELIEVE IN SUPERNATURAL? WHY

I don't think supernatural exist and what i meant by that is supernatural are just created by people. People who are too foolish enough to believe on those things. Those are just came from their wide and wild imagination.